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Re: Suggestion for Openshift Blog posts



On Jan 23, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Jason DeTiberus <jdetiber redhat com> wrote:

> On 23/01/14 12:43 -0800, Steven Pousty wrote:
>> Given our publishing schedule and our speaking schedules I don't think this kind of work and testing can come from the current evangelists.
>> 
> 
> Even if it is just a matter of trying to push the resulting
> application to a few different test environments (OSE 1.2, OSE 2.0 and
> the latest Origin release should be more than sufficient)?  
> If something doesn't work, then one of the SMEs should be able to
> provide a reason why in a short amount of time as well.
> 
> Please don't take this as me suggesting that all the work for this
> should fall on the evangelists, it is just that the evangelists are
> the ones creating the majority of the content, and some can work
> without modification for Origin and Enterprise as well.  If we can let
> the users know what works without modification and what could work
> with some modification, then it is a major win for Enterprise/Origin
> users.
> 
> I'll be more than happy to provide support from the Enterprise side to
> make sure there are working test environments and can help provide
> reasons for incompatibilities where they exist.

I agree with you Jason.  I think we should tag each blog post to state if it will work on Enterprise or not as well as online.

—
gs
> 
> --
> Jason
> 
>> On 01/23/2014 06:17 AM, Jason DeTiberus wrote:
>>> On 22/01/14 23:31 -0500, Steven Citron-Pousty wrote:
>>>> We, the evangelists, are mainly focused on online and all blog posts
>>>> only apply to origin or enterprise if we write something specific to
>>>> this platform.
>>>> I really think that we should be separating our web sites to have one
>>>> tailored to each product so there is less confusion all the way around.
>>> 
>>> I don't think that necessarily solves the problem though.  The
>>> majority of the content is being created by evangelists using Online.
>>> 
>>> This would just lead to a situation where there is relatively little
>>> content on the Origin and/or Enterprise spaces.
>>> Not to mention that for content that applies to other spaces, we would
>>> then need to duplicate that content to other spaces.
>>> 
>>> Ideally, we'd want to let users know that the article applies to the
>>> target product and *could* be used with <list of compatible products>.
>>> Or, we could tell them why it is incompatible (For example: relies on
>>> JBossEAP for Origin, relies on MongoDB for Enterprise, or will only
>>> work in Enterprise 2.0+ because it relies on nodejs-010 support).
>>> 
>>> We could provide some pre-configured OSE instances for content authors
>>> to use to verify compatibility there if it would help.  It wouldn't be
>>> that difficult to do the same with the origin releases as well.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Jason DeTiberus
>>> 
>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>> 
>>>> From: "Clayton Coleman" <ccoleman redhat com>
>>>> To: "Grant Shipley" <gshipley redhat com>
>>>> Cc: dev lists openshift redhat com
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:18:23 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Suggestion for Openshift Blog posts
>>>> Or folks should just make the tutorials work on online and origin 3,
>>>> and highlight that origin 2 doesn't work.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >
>>>> > On Jan 22, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Aaron Knister < aaron knister gmail com
>>>> >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I second that. Sometimes my users are confused as to why online
>>>> tutorials
>>>> > don't work on our origin 2 install.
>>>> >
>>>> > I think a better separation would be to have origin / community
>>>> content live
>>>> > on its own community site so they are two are easily mixed up. The
>>>> current
>>>> > blog posting is confusing for the reasons specified.
>>>> >
>>>> > —
>>>> > gs
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >
>>>> > On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Anderson Silva < ansilva redhat com >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Quick suggestion,
>>>> >
>>>> > This is a great blog post:
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.openshift.com/blogs/how-to-host-your-java-ee-application-wi
>>>> th-auto-scaling
>>>> >
>>>> > What would be really cool from my perspective would be if 'how-to'
>>>> blog posts
>>>> > like this had a standard 'compatibility' section that would basically
>>>> tell
>>>> > the reader what versions of Openshift this post should work with:
>>>> >
>>>> > Openshift Origin 1, 2, 3, Online, Enterprise 1.x, 2.x etc...
>>>> >
>>>> > It would also help keep track of any writings that may become
>>>> obsolete as
>>>> > Openshift evolves and posts stay around the "interwebs" for a long
>>>> time :-)
>>>> >
>>>> > Anyway, just a thought :-)
>>>> >
>>>> > AS
>>>> >
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